TJL: Welcome to the call; this is Thomas Leonard; with
me is…
DB: Dave Buck
Susan: And Susan Austin!
TJL: If you ever get concerned or frustrated, just press
5 and you'll get an instant virtual Tylenol. We spent a
good 10 hours developing this micro-module. Part of the
tension is the pain in getting t that place where you enjoy
the tension. I want to start with 3 examples of paradoxes.
I am lying. If I'm lying, how could that be true? This sentence
is false. This page is intentionally blank. Those are the
easy ones. I'll then give you some examples, we'll share
some quotes, talk about the benefits of having a paradox,
and so on. Here we go.
The definition of paradox is a statement that just sounds
contradictory. The outcome for you in this is to get comfortable
with contradictions themselves and be able to hold 2 truths
at the same time; it's to handle the duality of things that
are equally valuable. Again, just to give you the definition
of a paradox: a seemingly contradictory statement that may
nonetheless be true. For example, standing is more tiring
that walking. Also it's defined as a statement contrary
to popular opinion. What's true about paradoxes? One thing
- life is full of apparent contradiction because of our
apparent understanding of the complexity of life is still
quite low. As we get smarter these actually become possible
- perfection is perfectable. By not doing all, all is accomplished.
Playing it safe is dangerous. Those seem like apparent contradictions,
don't they? Most people can't handle shades of gray or enjoy
the duality of things. An amoeba has a hard time enjoying
paradoxes! As we get more complex as humans, we actually
ramp up our ability to understand contradictions. Dave,
what's true about paradoxes?
DB: The more you're able to enjoy the paradoxes that tension
causes, the less likely you are to get stopped or blocked.
If you think something is wrong, you can't move forward,
but if you can accept 2 things are true at the same time,
that often frees you up to move forward.
TJL: Yes - if you slow down, you'll get to your destination
faster.
DB: The more you give, the more you seem to have. If you
didn't understand or couldn't understand that paradox, you
would get stopped by giving away your best stuff. If you
understand it thought, you wouldn't be blocked and would
actually give more away.
Susan: So is the point here to understand these so we can
use them with our clients or just get our arms around these
as individuals?
TJL: I think the instructors are just trying to understand
them! (laugh)
XXX: How about the point is that there is no point?
TJL: We don't know quite yet, but we know that this is
an interesting topic and that clients often get stuck. Black
or white is pretty vivid, but gray is subtle and pretty
dull. The blandness of gray is less appealing than the contrast
of black and white. With paradoxes there may not be options.
Susan: I think that goes along with the 3rd truth - it's
tempting to try to resolve paradoxes but you don't have
to resolve them, it's just to accept that they're true.
TJL: We can't leave haphazard to chance. As you're planning,
you can be spontaneous.
DB: Great example! I like that.
TJL: Here's a great story that someone sent in - in yoga
the correct pose, called sana, is struck when the body is
experiencing tension. For example, the muscles on the front
of the legs are tight and the backs of the legs are relaxed.
For the beginner, this makes no sense. For the advanced
learned, it is understood, and for the master, it is a no-brainer.
The way we start is kind of perplexed - we're not sure what
to do with it. As you get better, you realize it's possible,
and then you're almost thriving on the ambiguity of having
both at the same time.
Just a couple benefits - when you're faced with a paradox
it forces internal focus and expansion. That kind of internal
gym work strengthens your mind. You can try to change it
externally, or you can think about how to grow on the inside
and handle the contradictions.
Susan: Yes, and another one I like, there is a life skill
you can relate to - I've been in a group that had to be
this way or that way, but I saw the paradox. Just seeing
the paradox and being able to deal with it is a life skill.
If you're comfortable with paradoxes, you can see the way
it can be together at the same time and gives you a powerful
way of relating.
TJL: For those who are righteous and justice oriented,
you'll love paradoxes. Another benefit here is that you
become a stronger conceptual thinker, and the more free
you are to be a creative thinker. If that's the next step
in our evolution, you're really poised to take advantage
of that. Paradoxes may be the cattle prod or catalyst for
moving forward.
Finally, creative people see the need for a certain amount
of dynamic tension for creativity to occur. I want to read
a couple quotes here, and then we'll go through the steps
of the paradox here. Big joke is this - in any form of duality,
the one we have judged inferior is the one that rules us.
You are god and you are also nothing. If you can get into
the middle of this, you will become very balanced, very
productive and very neutral.
Paradoxes often get confused with problems; problems have
solutions - paradoxes just are.
There can be more comfort in the absence of understanding
than in being certain.
You are never closer to the truth than when confused by
a paradox.
Everything is true.
Here are the 3 steps to enjoying the tension of paradoxes.
1. Notice the tension of what you're experiencing and simply
be perplexed. 2. Come to accept this tension even if you
don't understand it or agree with it. 3. Come to enjoy the
tension of a paradox. Those are the 3 steps. I think they
go well with the yoga story we talked about earlier. The
3rd step is probably the key place here.
Susan: You're not just saying paradoxes, you're saying
enjoy the 'tension' of paradoxes.
TJL: Yes, it comes with a contradiction and we're not really
built to handle contradictions. Whenever you sound confusing
to someone, just call it a paradox and be done with it.
if you can afford doubt, if you can afford confusion, you
can afford the tension and actually enjoy the tension.
DB: I think that's the key things in terms of the benefits
- being able to notice paradoxes. If you have an idea that's
bringing creativity to your work will help you, if you work
with paradoxes, you will enhance your creativity. It's almost
like a lateral path, but it definitely works.
TJL: Another couple of ideas then we'll turn it over to
the coaches. The desire to become desireless is a desire.
DB: That's a good one!
TJL: I'm someone who doesn't like labels.
XXX: We're all laughing here!
TJL: Learning increases ignorance - isn't that one of the
coolest things you ever heard? Why do we bother learning
if it's just going to get worse?
Susan: That's the story of my life, Thomas!
TJL: The more I play, the harder God works.
Keeping it simple can be very complex.
The more labor saving tools we get, the harder we work.
Saying no is saying yes.
The more I seek, the less I am.
Police departments need crime.
He who is everywhere is nowhere.
Some of these are more powerful than others. Let's do this
- we'll end the first segment of this call and come back
in about a minute or two.
(moment of silence)
TJL: Let's start - first, I'd like to hear from each and
everyone of you about one thing you felt was fascinating
or interesting about what we've been talking about.
XXX: I found all of it interesting. I think the whole direction
of first explaining it and then having the steps and being
able to see the end result was god. It almost takes you
towards a goal.
TJL: So rather than a person 'should' enjoy paradoxes,
we're almost giving them a reason to enjoy them?
XXX: Yes. It's a confusing subject, and it's exciting about
what will happen when you do understand that tension.
TJL: Thanks.
Barbara:
The thing that was most tolerable for me was your honesty
in acknowledging that you still find it a difficult topic.
It's liberating to hear that. Thank you for that.
TJL: Thank you for that. Who's next?
Heidi: I just had the whole call here on mute because I
was just laughing out loud. I realized that the tension
is my major source of energy and I thought I was crazy.
It just became clear to me that I don't have to become bankrupt
to enjoy the tension - it's just liberating!
TJL: There's enough tension everywhere, you don't have
to make it worse! So, people that are drama junkies just
give them a couple paradoxes and they're happy!
Heidi: Yes.
TJL: Thanks, Heidi.
Heidi: I have a question - how do I talk like that with
people, but how do I do that? You have to get people into
the whole 'enjoy the tension' mode, you can't just say it
- their eyes will glaze over.
TJL: Well, one thing you can do is not use the word 'paradox'.
You can just ask them not to choose, but maybe do both.
Ask them, 'what if both were true?" That'll be the
biggest gift t them. What's most compelling is that they
understand there are paradoxes, and giving them ways to
handle them in general. Make sense?
Heidi: Yeah, thanks.
TJL: Who else?
Steve: Causing tension is like the light lighting up in
my mind. One example for me is that the status quo is the
way forward.
TJL: Say more abut that.
Steve: If I'm caught in a situation and have many options,
I may decide on the one that I'm comfortable with and stick
with it.
TJL: So you're saying it might be one of the best ways
forward? That's great. Thanks for sharing.
Julia: Self-growth is a paradox.
TJL: So some self-growth is no growth at all? A lot of
self-growth is accepting the internal. Thanks for that.
Julia: My question is how does a paradox differ from an
oxymoron?
TJL: I know that - an oxymoron is a pair of words that
are designed to be mutually exclusive. A paradox has the
tension of that fear that causes the interest. Who else
has a questin or comment?
XXX: I think that makes it easier because I think it opens
you up to the freedom of saying that you don't agreement,
like agreeing to disagree.
TJL: Yes, because disagreement is agreement. Thanks for
that. Anyone else?
XXX: I think one of the things that's helped me is 'trust
- it all fits'; that's something my coach told me a few
years ago.
TJL: Nicely said! Good for your coach. One of the benefits
of what you said is that giving a lot of individuals with
coaches, we're experimenting a lot and as a result we get
a little confused because we can't understand how this connects
with that. By having the comfort of a phrase like that,
it lets us get through it and allows us to look for the
fit.
Susie: I just kept getting this message about nothing's
wrong.
DB: Is nothing's wrong a paradox or is that just an awareness?
TJL: Great question.
Valerie: I think it's a paradox.
TJL: Well said. Anyone else?
Valerie: I'm very comfortable with paradoxes on a mental
and emotional level, but how d you deal with them on a physical
level?
TJL: That would be one of our advance module sets! (laugh)
that was great! Anyone else want to top that? How about
any final comments, Dave or Susan? Tension may seem like
a negative thing, but maybe there's just delight in the
fact of having tension at all.
Susan: I think you nailed this one, but I'm almost reluctant
to say this! (laugh)
TJL: Don't give me too much praise yet, Susan!
XXX: Are you going to have a list of these in the module?
TJL: Yes, we will.
XXX: Will it be 100 or….?
TJL: Yeah, yeah, yeah! (laugh) Thank you all for contributing;
have a great day!